Make in India: The New Deal – By Dr. Dhanpaul Narine

Make in India: The New Deal – By Dr. Dhanpaul Narine

Arun Jaitley presents India's General_budget

Arun Jaitley presents India’s General budget

The man sitting next to me was upbeat. He had just returned from Mumbai and was impressed by what he saw. ‘We are on the move,’ he said. ‘We have the latest technology. They are building roads, airports, and railways at a brisk pace.  If you want a passport you don’t have to wait long and everything is going digital.  This is not the India of long ago.’

The man was a banker and he had a point. India is one of the fastest growing economies in the world and the Modi government is pulling the stops to cut out red tape and make business easy to do.

It was a high-powered meeting of the Asia Society in New York that discussed the latest project of the Modi government. It is called ‘Make in India: The new Deal’ and the panel consisted of some of the big names in the corporate and business world.

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  • De castro  On 05/06/2016 at 3:04 am

    The Romans showed the Brits how to
    do business then the Brits showed the
    world how to do biz. .. now the Indians
    will show the world how to do biz.
    Nothing new !
    Let’s hope they also show how to be
    Caring and Sharing to their poorer classes.
    Capitalism with a conscience
    where small is beautiful big ugly.
    Ways I see it
    Lord kamtan

  • demerwater  On 05/06/2016 at 7:27 am

    I believe that it really started around 1991 with Mr. P V Narasimha Rao.

    I seem to recall that Amitabh Bachchan (“Walking Tall”; Indian movies; Albion.) was Minister of Culture; but I might be mistaken.
    Here and there, speaking with Indian Nationals in the US, I gather that Cardiologists particularly, came to the US because of the advanced surgical techniques and technologies. Subsequent to 1991, as hospitals in India were updated (Siemens!) this ‘brain drain’ has started to reverse.
    I was quite pleasantly surprised at meeting an Indian IT technician who lived out of a suitcase! In the preceding 6 months he had been dispatched to three different international work locations.
    Nielsen, the social survey company, has a major center in Tampa and employs a lot of Indians. A friend of mine boarded a public transport bus and as his and the driver’s “eyes made four”, the latter asked “You work for Nielsen?”

    • De castro  On 05/06/2016 at 12:51 pm

      Small world
      Overpopulated ?
      WW3 ?

      Scary
      Lord kamtan

  • demerwater  On 05/06/2016 at 9:05 am

    To continue, I believe the hurdle that India has to overcome is related to world peace. It is quite a dilemma. Right next door there is Pakistan with its nuclear weapons (we are told). Then there is Kashmir. China and India have had a war over border related issues. As with the Guyana / Venezuela border, these issues can be instantly resurrected / escalated.
    If I were a ‘foreign investor’, I would have to analyze the circumstances very, very, minutely. And we are all familiar with the saying, “Analysis brings Paralysis.”

  • Albert  On 05/06/2016 at 11:48 am

    Not often reported in the media is that Pakistan has increased its nuclear capability many folds. It has even began to produce “convenient size” nuclear weapons. On which country is it planning to use them.

    • De castro  On 05/06/2016 at 12:46 pm

      Pakistan not unlike USA have many mini nukes …why MINI nukes…?
      It will start with mini and end in
      tears/Armagedon.
      Towns and cities can be taken
      out from drones….crazy world.
      As for Modi s India …he represents
      the Hindus not Muslims.
      India has a serious “class”
      issue which will only be resolved
      if it is addressed. Modi ?
      Did Obama resolve the class
      structure in USA ?
      99% v 1% ers working class.
      China keeps its working class
      (Media et al) under strict rules
      (Oppressed/suppressed) for how
      much longer ?
      These are testing times for our
      world ….lets home common sense
      wins.
      Que sera sera
      Lord kamtan

  • Gigi  On 05/06/2016 at 7:09 pm

    India needs to ensure that not only its local investors, entrepreneurs, small businesses and farmers are not being kicked to the curb by outsiders. India’s farmers have the highest rate of suicide resulting from Monsanto and other big agri businesses undermining their livelihoods through gmo practices aimed at destroying the seeds local farmers save every year to plant future crops. Bollywood and India’s culture seem to have been hijacked by Wes. Though I did watch several recently released movies that were very good.

    Pakistan may be its own country but it is still very much influenced by Indian culture. I say this because I have several colleagues/friends who are from Pakistan. Not only are they big Bollywood fans but they do acknowledge India’s influence in their culture/customs. They are the ones who usually recommend what movies to watch. My very close Pakistani colleague is moving back to Pakistan this summer to get married and she wants me to attend her weeding. I told her only if she goes with me to Kashmir to see the village where my maternal great grandmother was from. She said to me ” [Gigi] I don’t know why India is like that, they want to control everything.” I replied that Pakistan wants to control Kashmir too but Kashmiris just want to have their own independent state. I will visit India, Pakistan and Kashmir before I set foot in Guyana. I will only visit/return to Guyana when it becomes two separate independent states. Guyana as it stands ever since its inception is just not appealing to me nor my family. I blame the PPP for pussyfooting and needlessly delaying the inevitable. India should use its influence with the West to secure a separate Guyana before all the Asian Indians abandon Guyana and cause India to lose it’s bargaining power. Please do not do to Indo-Guyanese what the Muslim world is doing to the Palestinians.

    • De castro  On 05/06/2016 at 11:42 pm

      Gigi
      If my memory serves me it was the
      Brits who divided India …
      India Pakistan along religious lines.
      Hindu v Muslims
      Did not Henry VIII divide the
      Roman church in order to
      Divorce his wife and marry his
      concubine.
      Sorry have to disagree over
      the Guyana solution on racial
      grounds. What Guyana needs
      is not division on racial grounds
      but United on cultural/racial
      grounds. Two major races
      inter marriages/interbreeding
      enhancing the DNA of future
      generations. Politically economically
      socially and religiously.

      Our world was divided post WW2
      by the victors of that war…
      USA UK France and Russia.
      Spoils of war.
      Do we repeat that mistake.!
      If anything we need a United
      world led by China and India
      as the two most populated
      states of our planet.
      Ways I see it.
      Lord kamtan

      • Thinker  On 05/07/2016 at 2:23 am

        It is a bit simplistic to say that the British divided India. The fact is that Jinna and the Muslim League decided that they wanted an Islamic polity since they could not exist and retain their identity under Hindu domination.
        The concept of enhancing DNA is nonsense especially socially, economically, politically, and religiously. Also foolish to talk about a world led by countries based on the size of their populations. These are comments that must be made to protect the gullible.

    • Thinker  On 05/07/2016 at 2:32 am

      Gigi, Let us all know if the same applies to Trinidad and Suriname in terms of India losing its leverage. And should places like Jamaica and Barbados be warned. London too.

      • De castro  On 05/08/2016 at 4:09 am

        Thinker
        Thanks for the reminder of how
        India was divided on religious
        rather than political grounds.
        Always thought it was political
        influenced by religion.
        We never stop learning.
        Religion has divided our world
        for centuries can politics unite
        it in decades….my jury out !
        Kamtan

    • De castro  On 05/08/2016 at 4:01 am

      Gigi
      You will be pleased to know
      that the new London mayor
      is Muslim and from Pakistan.
      He was the labour candidate
      who has replaced the Maverick
      politician Boris Johnson.
      The “money merchant” tories
      have lost control of London.
      Let’s see if the new labour leader
      Corbyn will support him.
      Politricks
      Lord kamtan ps thanks for the info
      Re India…

  • Albert  On 05/06/2016 at 8:54 pm

    Kamtan: “capitalism with a conscience”That a new one.

    Saw a documentary on Netflix a few weeks back showing how Union Carbide operated in India. (forgot which state) They were pouring the company’s waste into a swamp which ran through the village and used for domestic purposes by the villagers. People were getting sick by the stuff. When Union Carbide bosses were confronted their response was that they pay taxes on their operation. Public Health and sanitation was issues for the government not the company.

    Meanwhile stockholders were pressing for increased profits. Managers began laying off senior workers and making engineers train laborers to do more technical work during off hours.
    It was capitalism at its best.

    • De castro  On 05/07/2016 at 12:03 am

      Albert
      Union carbide never compensated
      those who suffered death and deformities for their negligence.
      As for the GM seeds it was another
      American corporation who tricked
      the Indian farmers into planting
      their seeds.
      Here is a joke an Indian friend
      told me in my time with Royal Mail.
      He was the chief engineer in
      the government working in India
      at the time.
      Villagers were crapping (excreting)
      in the streets so he came up with
      a brilant idea…build toilets and
      collect the waste to be recycled
      into butane gas for cooking.
      All went as planned and his
      factory was producing quantities
      of the stuff…
      Until one day a stuck valve
      caused an explosion in the
      factory. He was forced to leave
      India for UK.
      Reason for explosion.
      A seed had blocked one of the
      major valves in the factory.

      Not sure if story was true but
      imagine a crap factory exploding.

      Engineering at its best !

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On 05/06/2016 at 10:20 pm

    Kamtan: Pl explain how you arrived at this assertion: “As for Modi s India …he represents the Hindus not Muslims.”

    Secondly, do you think Indian Muslims would be better off in Pakistan and Bangladesh. And, are you familiar with Bollywood leading men. The “King Khan”, Shahrukh Khan, is a Muslim, as are Amir Khan, Saif AliKhan, Salman Khan, etc. Incidentally, the first three are married to Hindu women (popularly known as “Love Jihad”). Muslim women, generally are proscribed from marrying Hindus (idolators in the eyes of Islam).

    So, how does a country with 80% Hindus allow/encourage top leading men to ‘romance’ Hindu women??? Do you think the reverse would be allowed in Pakistan/Bangladesh or any other Muslim country?
    In Pakistan, regularly, minority Hindus and Christians are attacked or false ‘blasphemy’ charges are brought against them leading to slaughter.

    In Bangladesh, secular bloggers are regularly hacked to death, even this week. Look at the CNN report (two items, back to back). http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/12/asia/bangladesh-blogger-killed/index.html.

    Do you know that in 1971, when Bangladesh split from (West) Pakistan. up three million with about one million Hindus were slaughtered, along with hundreds of thousands women brutally raped? The Islamists used to mark the Hindu homes with yellow ribbons/paint so they will know which ones to attack. https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2014/08/04/in-1971-muslims-murdered-2-4-million-hindus-and-raped-200000-hindu-women/

    So, give me and readers the facts you have on Modi.

    Veda Nath Mohabir

    • De castro  On 05/07/2016 at 3:52 pm

      Veda
      Thanks for that historical perspective
      on how religious beliefs can divide
      people.
      May I humbly suggest that we must
      try to forgive but never forget.
      The Jews may have forgiven
      the Germans for the holocost
      but am sure they will never forget.
      My issue is with religious beliefs
      which have divided our world but
      how do we change or reduce
      these religious mindsets.
      In civil wars it is “families”
      killing each other for political
      beliefs in peace time it’s in the
      name of religion.
      Modi was elected on a Hindu
      ticket …will google results of
      Indian elections in search of
      the facts and hopefully respond
      to your request..think it was on
      BBC news after results were
      announced.
      Please note that I have no religious
      affiliations/sympathies and if anything
      am very anti the religious establishment or wars.
      Once again thanks for your
      enlightened contribution.
      Kamtan

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On 05/08/2016 at 12:08 am

    Kamptan: You said ‘Modi was voted in on a Hindu ticket’. In a country of 80% Hindus how can anyone arrive at your conclusion? Modi was voted in because of widespread corruption and mismanagement among so-called ‘secular’ Congress Party officials (who ran India for most of the years since independence) at the very top. Modi’s economic performance as Chief Minister of Gujarat and as a man living a straight life (Brahmachari in Hinduism) with no women distraction in his life, were the drawing cards.

    Secondly, usually the top of the line criticism of Hindus is that it is claimed high caste Hindus suppress the lower classes, but, Surprise (!), Modi is a low-caste Hindu: “Modi’s family belonged to the Modh-Ghanchi-Teli (oil-presser) community, which is categorised as an Other Backward Class by the Indian agovernment” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narendra_Modi . Also his father/he were tea sellers on train stations. So, why would a ‘backward class’ suppress a minority (Muslims)? Where is the logic???

    Much is made of the Muslims killed in a riot in his state, but he didn’t have the troop resources at to suppress the riots (triggered by Muslims incinerating 59 Hindu pilgrims, mostly women and children who couldn’t escape the train car – as it was well planned). This trigger you never hear of in the anti-Hindu media. Modi called for Federal gov’t troops but troops were not handy, deployed in other regions of the country, eg, Kashmir fighting-off pro-Pakistani insurgents.

    You say you heard the negative news about Modi on BBC. First, you have to understand that that the Western world, heavily Judeo-Christian, is anti-Hindu. It is why the past Pope John and Christian denominations (including many pretender-NGO organizations and World Vision) flock heavily to India to win souls, often with a bag of rice for the poor souls. Add to that, the other major Abrahamic religious adherents, the Muslim world (with lots of petro $$$ to sway opinions), and you have a huge body of anti-Hindu sentiments in the media.
    Even the Ivy League universities are into the act. To cite just one academic from UChicago, Wendy Doniger’s, take on Hindus, have a (zoom-in) look closely at the book cover. You will see a somewhat Trojan horse filled with almost nude, buxom women, with Lord Krishna sitting on the bum of one. The book is all about Hindu gods’ mostly kinky sex. All Prof. Doniger’s works on Hinduism have this sex theme. https://www.bing.com/search?q=wendy+doniger+the+hindus&qs=SC&pq=weny+doniger&sk=SC1&sc=7-12&sp=2&cvid=947920A866F84727AF51D370E5430054&FORM=QBRE

    And there are several other academics in Harvard and other schools trying to undermine Hinduism. So, it is the Judeo-Christian-Islamic world vs. Hindus (and the likes of Hindu Modi), plus they have the ‘secularists’ (the sepoys) in India and the diaspora allied with Marxists anNaxalits/Communists, artists, writers and Muslims. What is common to all is their Eurocentric-Western education with a time-line of history based on a world that began in 4004BCE (per Bishop Usher), who hold that Aryans invaded India and setup a Brahminic culture suppressing the dark-skinned people (and later Muslims). (Clem Seecharan, the ‘coconut’ sepoy subscribes to this view). I can go on and on, but will put limit to the tangent at this point.

    Back to BBC and its bias in reporting. Here are two cases, on Modi and Aung San Suu Kyi (by Muslim presenters):
    British minister, Priti Patel, complained to BBC about Muslim presenter Yalda Hakim’ s biased and collusive interview re Modi’s election. ‘Patel also highlighted Hakim’s references to Modi as a ‘controversial figure’ and as having “blood on his hands” and that he was “India’s most divisive politician”’. http://ukmalayalee.com/uk-news/news.php?id=MzI3OA== . Similarly, Aung San Suu Kyi was upset over another BBC Muslim, Mishal Hussain, interview re Muslim Rohingas. This is complex issue, yet the BBC, and numerous groups unfamiliar with Burmese/Buddhist culture want to force her to give a ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ answer. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3508710/Moment-Burma-heroine-lost-cool-Today-s-Mishal-Suu-Kyi-s-anger-no-one-told-going-interviewed-Muslim-heated-questioning-BBC.html?amp&amp .

    This is how Hindus are viewed. But if you didn’t already know, these same Hindus gave the world the Decimal Number System and Zero (taught in schools as Arabic Numerals) replacing the cumbersome Roman Numerals so that all kinds of intricate calculations in science and commerce can proceed.
    Per Wikipedia on Syrian Bishop Sebokht: “The Indian place-system numerals spread to neighboring Persia, where they were picked up by the conquering Arabs. In 662, Severus Sebokht – a Nestorian bishop living in Syria wrote:
    I will omit all discussion of the science of the Indians … of their subtle discoveries in astronomy — discoveries that are more ingenious than those of the Greeks and the Babylonians – and of their valuable methods of calculation which surpass description. I wish only to say that this computation is done by means of nine signs. If those who believe that because they speak Greek they have arrived at the limits of science would read the Indian texts they would be convinced even if a little late in the day that there are others who know something of value.[3]
    The addition of zero as a tenth positional digit is documented from the 7th century by Brahmagupta, though the earlier Bakhshali Manuscript, written sometime before the 5th century, also included zero. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numerals . To quote Rodney Dangefield “I(ndia i.e. Hindus) get no respect”.

    You mention that religion is divisive. Depends on which religion. The Abrahamic religions rely on an historic ‘saviour’, especially Christianity and Islam. According to them, there is NO other path but to strictly adhere to their dogmas. In Christianity you MUST believe in Jesus, the Christ, as son of God sent to redeem our sins. In Islam you MUST in Muhammad as God “final’ (the seal) prophet. As you can see they are in conflict with each other; and have led to the conflicts you talk about. No other path is tolerated by them. The disciples/adherents go all over the world to convert people (through inquisitions and by the sword – estimate of 80 million killed by Muslim invaders of India in 1,000 years) to their unique path.

    On the other hand let’s look at what Lord Krishna (an avatar/incarnation of the Godhead) said in the Bhagavad Gita 4:11: “In whatever way people surrender unto Me, I reward them accordingly. O Pårtha, all men follow My path.” In other words, Krishna is saying there is no one way to approach the Godhead, but in whatever manner, one knowingly or unknowingly approaches Him he reciprocates accordingly. Furthermore, all people knowingly or unknowingly worship the same God; the difference in approaches and forms depend on local traditions.

    This verse is the key to why Hindus have many forms of the one God. There is no restriction on form or approaches. ALL are equally acceptable to HIM. http://srimadbhagavadgita.net/bhagavad-gita-chapter-4-verse-11
    Thus, verse (4:11) spells out the great tolerance that Hinduism is known for, unlike rigid monotheism of the Abrahamic religions. With such tolerance of differences where is the conflict in the Hindu faith?
    As you can see, conflict arises only when the Abrahamic faiths insist it is their way or none else.
    Veda Nath Mohabir

    • De castro  On 05/08/2016 at 4:31 am

      Veda
      Having read all the above am still
      convinced that Religion (beliefs)has
      divided …is destroying our world
      over centuries…
      Will politics unite it over decades..?

      My jury out on the God or gods
      issue.

      The idea that god is not singular
      appeals to me … Romans were
      clever to adopt gods after conquest.
      Not wishing to go deeper into
      Pro or cons of several gods and
      theology will leave an
      Open mind on the God issue.
      Very interesting read
      Thanks
      Compton

    • Thinker  On 05/08/2016 at 10:05 am

      This may be of interest re: Modi and women http://www.sify.com/news/the-women-in-narendra-modis-life-imagegallery-1-features-oeoowCcfdccsi.html

      The tolerance of Hinduism is rightly emphasized by Veda Nath. The followers of Zarathustra were forced to flee Iran after the Islamic conquest. They found a new home in India and continue to prosper to this day (Parsis)

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On 05/08/2016 at 12:38 pm

    Thinker: The writer, Vijay Simha, could be right. I will have to restrain judgement on his objectivity until I know more on him. Question in the meantime, is why is it necessary to focus on Modi’s so-called ‘dysfunctional’ relationship with the 3 women. What about all other women? Did the writer try to find women he has a more balanced, positive relationship with? Won’t that be fair journalism?

    It is widely known that many western-trainded/minded Indians (I raised this in my previous post) are annoyed that an ardent Hindu (in a country that 80%) leads the India.

    I am told that in the next issue of Guyaneseonline another article will come up on India. I was already familiar with that writer’s (another sep[oy/coconut) name who is anti-Modi. So, your linked-article doesn’t surprise me.

    A woman follower of Zarathustra (now Indian Parsi) also attends my mandir. In fact,today, we would have met up in our Vedas-Upnaishads philosophy class, but for Mother’s Day. She, and another former Iranian Muslim who also attends are ardent followers of Hinduism now. It is the tolerance of Hinduism which grabs them.

    Veda Nath Mohabir

  • Albert  On 05/08/2016 at 7:18 pm

    Kamtan: “Having read all the above am still
    convinced that Religion (beliefs)has
    divided …is destroying our world
    over centuries…

    After years of studying life issues a discovery was that in some quarters man need a religious belief to help with the pressures of everyday life. This is very true for many Christians. Think of the collateral damage (depression, sadness, lost souls) which would result if these religous people were to discover their beliefs were false.
    A sad observation is that if you question the average Muslim, Hindu or Christian you get varying interpretation of their religious belief. It may also be difficult to live up to the demands required by the religion

    I learnt much from Catholic doctrine whose belief is base on revelation of science….including Evolution. They spend millions on scientific discovery (Astronomy, Biology) and argue that the devine power is behind it. Catholics did some horrible things. That aside, its almost impossible to find a valid argument against the scientific reasons supporting their beliefs.

  • Thinker  On 05/08/2016 at 9:10 pm

    Just a minute Albert. Are you serious? Catholic doctrine is based on the revelation of Christ (and, I would add St. Paul), not science. The Church has been trying to keep up with Science but it is an uphill battle. If Galileo could come back from the dead he would disagree violently with you (probably dropping a stone on your head). You are putting the cart before the horse. With what we know of evolution there can be no original sin, therefore no need for redemption and no “chosen people”.The basis for the stand against artificial means of contraception (Onan spilling his seed) makes NO sense. Neither does that philosophical muddle of three persons in one God. Christ believed in Adam so the Church seems to know more than Him.The Pope is just fooling around with being more open to gays, divorcees, etc. He can’t do a thing to change doctrine. Once met the Head of the Vatican Observatory but he refused to talk about theological implications (said it wasn’t his speciality!!!). So there is always some cognitive dissonance in all religions because basically they are man-made. Let us not even mention Islam if we want to be safe.

  • Albert  On 05/08/2016 at 11:57 pm

    Higher up the Catholic church is divided on its own philosophy and certain figures are designated as the Church’s Authority on some subject. They also have Catholic scientists (eg at the Catholic Univ.) who advise on some scientific subjects.
    In its official records the Catholic Church accept the Big Bang Theory which says in effect the universe came into existence some 14 billion years ago. Many scientist argue there must be a cause for the universe coming into existence. Where the church depart from many in the science field is by claiming a “God” with features they give him cause it to come into existence. There is a great deal of scientific evidence since to support the Big Bang Theory. The Hubble space telescope has confirm that space is expanding at a uniform rate. Thus base on space expansion over a certain period a calculation could be made to the universe original starting point. The point is that the Catholic church documented acceptance of this science has universal support. What they claim as “cause” is a different story.
    Now the evidence for Evolution is overwhelming. I don’t debate this anymore because what people believe is irrelevant…the science is there. So here again the Church is on firm ground. The problem for Christianity (maybe most religion) it conflicts with that Adam and Eve fable. It does not say how life (not human life) originated. Maybe it did in the form of a unicellar creature but certainly not as humans. Genesis is a fundamental part of Christianity and must admit I do not how the Catholiic Church has been able to reconcile conflicts in its acceptance of science with its teaching of Christ. Its documented that many Catholic priests have been complaining to John Paul about the difficulty in preaching scientific reasoning to the lay followers. In fact I have spoken to Catholic Bishops in New York on some of these points but many did not deal with these issues. The Catholic church is also a business and has to be practical in finding ways to maintain financial support.
    Don’t get your point about Galileo. I think he would be in my corner. If memory hold the Church teaching in Galileo’s time was that the earth was the center of the universe and the sun rotated around it. Galileo argued and provided evidence to show it was the other way around. The earth and other planets rotated around the sun. He was punished for his conflict with the Church doctrine and pardoned by John Paul.

  • Thinker  On 05/09/2016 at 2:31 am

    Galileo would know how repressive and backward the Roman Church was. It is still playing catch-up with Science. The vast majority of Catholics have no idea of what to believe. Are heaven and hell a state of mind? The official Vatican Exorcist beleives that Satan has taken over the Catholic Church.

    • De caatro  On 05/09/2016 at 3:47 am

      Gentlemen
      The only positive I can take from
      religious beliefs is it does assist
      in the understanding of the
      differences between “good and evil”
      but the hyprocracy of religious beliefs
      astounds me !
      The sums do not add up in the
      conclusion based on the evidence
      available.
      Too far fetched for me to consider
      as the commonsence approach to
      life and death. Our purpose in life
      and life after ?
      Too many questions unanswered
      scientifically or religiously.
      Am not convinced of the life after
      belief or heaven and hell thesis…
      Do good and go to heaven.
      Do bad and go to hell.
      Limbo was the compromise but
      the church abolished its possibilities
      some time ago.
      In anger I usually say…
      If I pray to God and he does not
      listen/act on my request then do
      I pray to satan.
      They were buddies once.😈😇
      Now I pray no more and worship
      neither.
      Respect
      Lord kamtan

  • Albert  On 05/09/2016 at 11:04 am

    Gentlemen
    The only positive I can take from
    religious beliefs is it does assist
    in the understanding of the
    differences between “good and evil”

    Kamtan you may be ahead of the game. What I know is that I do not know…….but may be a bit ahead of those who do not know, but do not know, they do not know.

    • De castro  On 05/09/2016 at 12:12 pm

      Ha ha …a conundrum indeed.

      Nice one

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