If Guyana cannot confront people like Ryhaan Shah and Ravi Dev, it will explode – By Freddie Kissoon

If Guyana cannot confront people like Ryhaan Shah and Ravi Dev, it will explode

Mar 07, 2017  Features / Columnists, Freddie Kissoon

Guyana is seeing dangerous waters coming right onto its doorsteps but if it doesn’t act, it will face horrible consequences. A group named the Guyana Indian Indentureship Abolition Association (GIIAA), founded by some of the worst rabid minds existing in this world and funded by some businessmen who accumulated vast wealth from Bharrat Jagdeo’s oligarchic rule, put on a presentation at the National Cultural Centre to commemorate the hundred years of the abolition of indentureship last Friday.

Some of the presenters were the usual suspects – people who ideologically believe in ethnic superiority in Guyana and people who see the fall of the PPP in May 2015 as a defeat for the permanent rule of the PPP and the collapse of a labyrinthine, ethnic web of money, politics and power that characterized Guyana under the domination of Jagdeo from 1999 to 2015. I put the date to 2015 because a mediocre, jejune leader like Donald Ramotar was a mere front for Jagdeo when Ramotar held the presidency.  

Two of the functionaries of this labyrinth spewed sociological miasma at the conference, that brings into question the type of people we have on Planet Earth. There was the master of them, Ravi Dev, who heads the Guyana Times owned by Bharrat Jagdeo and Bobby Ramroop. He urged Indian people to resist and rise up to protect what Indian people have. He didn’t distinguish the ordinary Indian folks like me and hundreds of thousands like us who have nothing and got nothing under Jagdeo and Ramotar.

He didn’t mention the thousands of Indian students who cried daily, some of whom committed suicide, over the unbearable conditions they endured at UG for the twenty-three years the PPP was in power.

Ravi Dev was concerned with Indians like his bosses, the owners of Guyana Times, who have amassed unspeakable wealth, of which Dev is a current beneficiary. Unfortunately, Black leaders did not urge Black Guyanese to do what Dev is instilling in Indians to do. If Black leaders had done that, maybe the wealth of Guyana would have been more evenly spread and billionaires would not have emerged to bankroll the Guyana Times, people like Dev and the GIIAA.

If Black leaders had done that, Ronald Waddell and Courtney Crum-Ewing would have been alive and 500 young men would not have died at the hands of extra-judicial killers during the reign of Jagdeo.

Next on the infamous list was Ryhaan Shah (see text PDF below and in comments). When you heard what she had to present, then all Guyana should be grateful to President Granger for rejecting this woman to be the person in control of our election system, that is, GECOM.

-Shah and Dev do not mince their words. They are typical of the race fanatics in the South that brought Trump to power. They seek the return of PPP hegemony, because that equals Indian supremacy. Shah told her ideological colleagues (the audience was a family affair, hardly any attendees) that the Indian population has been marginalized. You cannot help but laugh at this lady for her crude asininities.

How can the Indian population be marginalized when for twenty-three years an Indian party was in power, from 1992 to 2015? How can the Indian population be marginalized when ninety percent of the Guyanese economy is in the hands of Guyanese Indian business people? How can Indians be marginalized when there is no exclusive Amerindian, African, Chinese or European school in Guyana, but there is a huge Hindu school at Cornelia Ida owned and operated by a Hindu priest, Aksharananda, who has a similar mind to Dev and Shah?

There is a Hindu College at Cove and John that is always filled to capacity. And there is a Muslim school on East Street where the pupils are almost 98 percent Indians.

The tribalists at the National Cultural Centre didn’t realize they were contradicting themselves when Jagdeo’s representative, Parliamentarian, Adrian Anamayah, told the family gathering that Indian businessmen are being penalized for their success. But Shah told the same gathering that Indians have always left Guyana for North America for safety and prosperity that are denied them in Guyana.

There are two forms of asininities here. If Shah is right, then how did Indian business people achieve the success that Anamayah spoke about?

Secondly, if Shah is right, and Indians have always felt insecure and migrated, then, surely for the twenty-three years of Indian rule, one must conclude that the PPP did nothing for Indians. Indian people, then, should put some faith in rulers from other communities, for example, the African and Amerindian communities.

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Read: Text of speech by Rhyaan Shah at the Centenary of Indenture Abolition event

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  • guyaneseonline  On March 8, 2017 at 8:14 am

    Berbicians love their own version of Donald Trump
    Mar 08, 2017 Features / Columnists, Freddie Kissoon

    Almost ninety-nine percent of the people who listened to Bharrat Jagdeo and Donald Ramotar at Port Mourant last Sunday in commemoration of Cheddi Jagan’s death anniversary would have wished Hillary Clinton to win over Trump, because of Trump’s views on non-white immigration. Here is a piece of news that has not been reported.
    The US Embassy has cancelled about three dozen visitors’ visas of Guyanese whom they suspect to have used their visas to work in the US, and returned only to have repeated the pattern over and over.
    When I saw some of the names I laughed. I wasn’t surprised to see who they were, meaning from which demography they came. I saw those names days before Jagdeo addressed his gathering. I wonder if those that sat in the audience and listened as Jagdeo lied to them are happy at what Trump is doing. But I wonder in the minds of that Port Mourant audience last Sunday if Trump is a bad president. If the answer is yes, why wasn’t Jagdeo a bad president?
    The report in the newspapers said Jagdeo’s speech was given wide applauses. Life is a bittersweet fruit. This was the man who wrecked the sugar industry with the Skeldon factory, but Berbicians are rooting for him. I wonder, I really wonder if Granger says, ‘alright Berbicians I am going to subsidize the sugar industry’, will he get their votes in 2020?
    In 2020, I do believe Trump’s America will disappear and those voters in Ohio and elsewhere will leave Trump. Trump cannot bring back the industries and jobs in the South that he promised. Trump will fall in 2020 because white voters who wanted him to put white first will turn against him. They may even vote for a non-white presidential candidate.
    Sadly, long after Trump is gone, Jagdeo will be waxing lyrical in Berbice about his non-existent record and the cheers, as they did last Sunday, will reverberate throughout Berbice. This is the extent to which Guyana is psychologically frightening.
    This is the man who banned the ferries and built a bridge with pensioners’ money in the NIS and commuters’ fare became a nightmare. Today, you can cross the river with a paid speedboat which was outlawed in Jagdeo’s time, yet the cheers were loud as he spoke last Sunday. Every time I go to Berbice, I get at least one complaint from a sugar worker about his pension which he cannot get. I wonder if such pensioners were in the audience clapping.
    Were there persons in that audience who gyrated with adulation when Jagdeo spoke last Sunday who had to travel to Georgetown to submit their passport application and had to wait five hours? I’m sure, there were. Were there persons among the well-wishers who came from Black Bush Polder?
    The Granger/Nagamootoo administration is making mistakes, but it wasn’t under their rule that Guyana became the suicide capital of the world. Guyana’s acquired that infamy from Black Bush Polder. The last time I checked, Black Bush Polder was in Berbice, right in the county of Berbice where last Sunday, Jagdeo regaled his audience with denunciations of a government that is less than two years’ old. Jagdeo’s rule lasted fifteen years.
    It would have been intriguing to ask each person at that event last Sunday how did their wellbeing fare from 1999 to May 2015 when Jagdeo ruled Guyana. How fascinating it would be to hear the answers from sugar workers and unemployed youths. They say people’s memories are short. If your memory is short, then, you are dancing with the Devil, because once you do not remember the past, it will come back to destroy you.
    The textbook on politics instructs you that once a leader is terrible, and a nation forgets his misdeeds, and votes him in again, his misdeeds, will multiply. It will multiply because the leader tells himself that he cannot be a bad man yet win his country’s support. We saw this with our politics in Georgetown. A candidate that didn’t perform in the City Council for over 20 years won the mayorship in 2016. She told herself she couldn’t be an incompetent performer all those years yet won the mayorship.
    Maybe Georgetowners are like Berbicians. Maybe Georgetowners and Berbicians are like other Guyanese – a nation that thrives on its own self-destruction. Maybe Georgetowners deserve their mayor and Berbicians deserve their Jagdeo. The losers, of course, are the people of Guyana. But since when have the people of Guyana ever been winners. Maybe they will become winners when oil money comes. I am not too sure.

  • Thinker  On March 8, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    The question to be asked is how the marginalization of the masses of Indo-Guyanese (not the business community) is taking place. I expected to find some precision from this recent article http://guyanatimesgy.com/for-a-mass-protest/.The closing of Wales, the 14% VAT affecting some schools, public service appointments have been mentioned. The limitation on Nagamootoo’s power as PM is probably linked to the fact that the AFC did not deliver enough votes but perhaps a stronger case can be made for Indian marginalization somewhere. In any case as Trump knows well, perception is reality so for the greater good of all, the AFC should speak up. Don’t know to what extent Africans have particularly benefited from the coalition. Certainly not with the parking meters. APNU will lose if they cannot deal fairly with all.

  • guyaneseonline  On March 8, 2017 at 11:37 pm

    Written by Ms. Ryhaan Shah of Guyana

    Dear Editor:

    Marking the centenary of the end of the Indian indentureship programme has become a most interesting exercise and moreso for the Indian Guyanese community.

    Myself, Mr Ravi Dev and Swami Aksharananda were the objects of the usual spewing of hate – originating from Mr Freddie Kissoon’s pathology of self-hatred – in a column published by “Kaieteur News” of March 7, 2017.

    Whether Mr Kissoon should be given a column to direct personal attacks in the name of responsible journalism is a consideration for his publishers, the Guyana Press Association, and for the Government which is currently engaged in a nationwide programme to build social cohesion.

    At the event held at the National Cultural Centre which has attracted so much media attention the Minister of Social Cohesion was present and heard our remarks as did other Ministers of Government and heads of diplomatic missions in Guyana.

    That none of these intelligent and reasoned personages raised any alarm about any of our speeches inciting uprisings or societal explosions in Guyana could be a good indicator that it was an occasion that offered few surprises, if any.

    Neither Mr Dev nor I said anything new. In fact, we have been addressing these same concerns for years – along with leaders like Swami Aksharananda – about Indian Guyanese marginalisation. Newer ones like the closure of sugar estates at an event that speaks to Indian indentureship is hardly a surprise either.

    What arose from Mr Kissoon’s diatribe, however, was a decided fear among some of our community. He succeeded in getting Indian Guyanese to pull back into their corners and to fall silent. It always comes as a surprise that there are people who view Mr Kissoon as an intellectual and moral giant even though his columns amount to little beyond glib name-dropping and personal attacks on anyone he deems unacceptable.

    His success in intimidating some in our community into silence, however, needs investigation on this historic centenary.

    Are we still bound coolies allowing others to define us or are we free to think, analyse and speak for ourselves and about ourselves?

    In our divided country, there are agents with their various agenda who want us to retain our bound yard status and to live in fear and silence. These include self-loathers like Mr Kissoon and others who feel that subsuming themselves to a national identity of oneness is the only future on offer.

    The Government’s and Opposition’s continuous message of respect for diversity is set aside as political rhetoric by these Indian Guyanese who might well be correct about this assumption. They feel comfortable with their chosen status which opens doors for them in every area of national life.

    Our insistence on national recognition and respect for our Indian heritage and experience, therefore, makes them vastly uncomfortable.

    The other section of the bound yard includes Indian Guyanese who do understand and agree with our positions fully but remain closeted for fear of reprisal and intimidation by Mr Kissoon and those of his ilk.

    So much for our legacy of courage and resistance inherited from the many Indian heroes who fell right here on the sugar plantations in the struggle for justice.

    The question for all Guyana is: when will Indian Guyanese be able to live as Indian Guyanese and without fear to think, speak and voice an opinion from their perspective without being condemned as racists?

    This branding never occurs when Africans, Amerindians or any other group speaks on behalf of their communities. This is not a cry of victimhood but an observation about the obvious racism directed at the Indian Guyanese population which is designed to keep us voiceless.

    I wish to say to those Indian Guyanese who are fearful of embracing their ethnic identity: we left the bound yard one hundred years ago.

    We are free to give voice in music, dance, literature, etc., and free to express ourselves. The next step would be the inclusion of these and other Indian Guyanese expressions on the national stage beyond the tokenism that now exists.

    President David Granger in his address at Leonora last Sunday to mark the abolition centenary not only expressed his appreciation for the Indian contribution to Guyana’s development but assured us that we are very much part of a united Guyana.

    This even as the state-owned “Guyana Chronicle” participates in the assault on myself, Mr Dev, and PPP MP Mr Adrian Anamayah who also spoke at the NCC on behalf of Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo.

    While this assault directly contradicts the President’s own message of inclusion and respect for diversity, I want to believe that the President is sincere about his message to our community.

    This should mean that all hate speech and bigotry directed at any individual or group should be condemned and should have no place in Guyana.

    Sincerely,

    Ryhaan Shah
    rshah@networksgy.com

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On March 9, 2017 at 2:18 pm

    Freddie Kissoon is Clem Seecharan’s doppelganger: Self-loathing, Anglo-Indian coconuts. When my book rebutting Seecharan’s ‘Eldorado Complex’ comes out later in the year the reader will understand why.

    In the meantime pl. get acquainted with Seecharan’s 2014 speech. You will surely discern some similarities.

    https://guyaneseonline.wordpress.com/2014/04/11/32007/#more-32007

    Veda Nath Mohabir

  • Richinds  On March 10, 2017 at 10:52 am

    The reluctance of the so called ‘Indo Guyanese’ to assimilate in the West Indian diaspora is laughable ,at best, hypocrital/ungrateful/racist, at worst.
    Most of these ‘South Indian Dalits’ fled India to the Estates (jungles) of the new world in search of a better life – which, as evidenced by your article, the achieved. The irony is, had they stayed in India, most would be dead or non existent- remember the great South India famine.
    This undying yearning to return to the bosom of their beloved india, and their reluctance to integrate and assimilate, can only be explained by racism.
    I say, “SEND THEM ALL BACK TO INDIA” ! Never again should that ‘ethno-centric band of rabid, racist robbers ever be allowed to hold the reigns of political power in Guyana.

  • Ron Saywack  On March 10, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    “Most of these ‘South Indian Dalits’ fled India to the Estates (jungles) of the new world in search of a better life – … had they stayed in India, most would be dead or non-existent- remember the great South India famine.”

    Your assertion is patently false.

    The vast majority (85%) of indentured Indians to Guyana originated from North India from states such as Uttar Pradesh, West Bengal and Bihar, for example. Only a very small percentage came from the South — Tamil Nadu and Madras.

    The first steamships (Whitby and Hesperus) of emigrants arrived at Georgetown on in May 1838. The “great” famine of which you speak began in 1876 and ended in 1878, lasting three years. While famine may have played a role in some Indians wanting to leave their homeland for greener pastures, the majority were conned, under spurious claims of a better life.

    After the abolition of slavery in 1934 and the end of Apprenticeship Program in 1938, British planters desperately wanted replacements for the slaves, in order to keep their plantations viable, which was the main reason for their epic recruitment con job in India.

    “Professional recruiting agents, the arkatis’ in North India, and the ‘maistris’ in South India, resorted largely to deception and coercion to get supplies (of workers). Many were lured by way of glowing promises and were assured of lucrative employment and enriched opportunities.

    Recruiters exploited their ignorance and simplicity, and some were hoodwinked, cajoled and lured to leave their homes under false pretences while some were even kidnapped. Indeed, fraud, deceit and coercion permeated the whole recruiting system between 1838 and 1917.”

    “I say, “SEND THEM ALL BACK TO INDIA”!”

    And, professor, exactly how is this mass repatriation possible?

    I say if you do the crime, you do the time. No one is above the law, not even ex-gov’t officials.

    The entire post-colonial period in Guyana, unfortunately, has been replete with corruption, incompetency and gross governmental mismanagement from the PNC to the PPP to the present. The transition from colonialism to self-rule has been botched from day one. Not surprisingly, the British comprehensively failed to prepare the former colony for an efficient and orderly transition to self-determination.

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On March 10, 2017 at 9:31 pm

    Ric Hinds is like a robot with weak batteries so he regurgitates the same things over an over, even when corrected. Or, is he just plain ‘ hard-ears’, literally. So, once again, I will just deal with Indian famines, hoping it will sink in. Here is a reprise from April 17, 2016, where i went into great depth to provide unassailable evidence (to educate him and another racist buddy, Tata) on how the British machinated Indian famines:
    ……………………………
    Veda Nath Mohabir On April 17, 2016 at 12:24 am

    There is so much foolishness and hate being tossed around by a couple of anti-Indian racists here that I have to dispel a couple of their misrepresentations, aside from “Indo” issue. But as a small observation, no problem of course for them that Obama refers to himself as “African American” and a newspaper just this weekend refers to the Indian child who plays Mowgli (Rudyard Kipling’s) as “Indian-American” but a Guyanese or anyone of Guyanese Indian ancestry is scalded for using the prefix “Indo”.

    Now let’s turn to the ‘Bengal Famine’ issue. Hinds cite this as a failure of India – the ‘glorious’ motherland – to support its people thus causing indentured Indians (including 10-year old girls) to scurry to Br. Guiana for survival. Hinds and his buddy, Tata, must have been reading Clem Seecharan – the coconut Indian.

    The British East India Co. (a BBC documentary called it the biggest corporation in the world) diverted land use from food to opium production (for shipment to China causing huge numbers of Chinese to become addicts) and Indigo, as well as, steeply raising punishing land taxes and precluding farmers from saving/hoarding grains for hard times, all in the name of profits, for Britons. “The Great Bengal famine of 1770 was one of a series of famines in India under British colonial rule that would continue killing tens of millions of Indians into the late 19th century and beyond”. Read more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Bengal_famine_of_1770

    Yet, these are not the only times British imperialism decimated Bengalis. Even after indentureship was halted, the British still treated India as its breadbasket and, of course, its ‘Jewel in the Crown’ to fatten Britons and exploit ‘beastly Indians’ to the point of death, literally. There was the (WWII) 1943 Famine. Australian biochemist Dr. Gidgeon Polya called the 1943 famine a “man made holocaust” by the British Gov’t with Churchill being the architect. ‘While the Nazis took 12 years to round-up and murder 12 million Jews, Roma (Indian ancestry) and Slavs, the British decimated 4 million Indians in just one year- 1943. While 1942 was a “bountiful year” the British diverted the food to Britain causing massive food shortages’. ‘Churchill regarded wheat as too precious a food to expend on Indians’. Read here: http://www.tehelka.com/2014/06/remembering-indias-forgotten-holocaust/

    Ric Hinds and his ally, Tata, would be happy to read about Indians who were failed by their motherland, India. So here is a description for their enjoyment. After all, Churchill, their likely colonial ally also, did call Indians “beastly people, with a beastly religion”.

    ‘Mukherjee tracks down some of the survivors of the famine and paints a chilling tale of the effects of hunger and deprivation. Parents dumped their starving children into rivers and wells. Many took their lives by throwing themselves in front of trains. Starving people begged for the starchy water in which rice had been boiled. Children ate leaves and vines, yam stems and grass. People were too weak even to cremate their loved ones. “No one had the strength to perform rites,” a survivor tells Mukherjee. Dogs and jackals feasted on piles of dead bodies in Bengal’s villages. The ones who got away were men who migrated to Calcutta for jobs and women who turned to prostitution to feed their families. “Mothers had turned into murderers, village belles into whores, fathers into traffickers of daughters,” writes Mukherjee.’ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/soutikbiswas/2010/10/how_churchill_starved_india.html
    Much to cheer about, Hinds and Tata. I will deal with the caste issue later.
    Veda Nath Mohabir

    The Indo-Caribbean Experience: Now and Then – by Elizabeth Jaikaran
    ………………………………………………….
    BTW. India is not the only country visited with famines. What does he have to say about the current famine in Somalia? Has he and his ilk opened their wallets to provide aid, or they just prefer to bad-mouth Indians ?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/somalia-famine-drought_us_58c25845e4b0d1078ca5c368

    Veda Nath Mohabir

    • Richinds  On March 11, 2017 at 9:12 am

      Indians in Guyana are predominantly descendants of South India (Calcutta/Bengal and a few originated in Bihar ). UP has always been the most populated state, but enjoyed a better standard of living than South INDIA.
      “Sending them all back may been better expressed by the term “self – deportation” because these self identified ‘Indo Guyanese’ seem to prefer India to Guyana. If you want to be Indian, then you are out of place in Guyana. If, after 179 years ,generation after generation of Indian immigrants have still to emerge as un-hyphennated Guyanese, what is the point of remaining in Guyana? Is it simply for ownership and control? Indians have a Devine right to India, not Guyana. “WHERE YOUR HEART IS That’s where you should also be”.
      What seems so ironic is that there are no lessons learned from the failed attempt by a few to return to India after its independence and just before their indentureship contractual terms expired: the majority died on the streets in a failed attempt to re establish family relations; the survivors returned. If you can’t love the ones you’re with, then go with the ones you love. It is your desire, not mine.
      AND, THE TRUE INDIANS OF INDIA HAVE NO DESIRE TO EMBRACE YOU. THE FACT IS, THEY LAUGH AT YOUR CLAIM OF INDIAN ETHNICITY. AND SO DO I.

      • Ron Saywack  On March 11, 2017 at 12:41 pm

        “Indians in Guyana are predominantly descendants of South India (Calcutta/Bengal and a few originated in Bihar ).”

        Pathetic!

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On March 11, 2017 at 11:28 am

    Poor educated Ric Hinds:
    “Indians in Guyana are predominantly descendants of South India (Calcutta/Bengal and a few originated in Bihar ). UP has always been the most populated state, but enjoyed a better standard of living than South INDIA.”

    Do some geography!

    “If, after 179 years ,generation after generation of Indian immigrants have still to emerge as un-hyphennated Guyanese, what is the point of remaining in Guyana?”

    Pl do send a similar message to self-styled “African-American” Barack Obama!

    At this point your intellectual/education deficit is too enormous for me to entertain your racist rants..You are henceforth demoted to grade school.!!!

    Veda Nath Mohabir

    • Richinds  On March 12, 2017 at 10:33 am

      Your reference to BO removes all doubt about who is racist.
      It is sometimes difficult to set aside ‘reflect’ bias when articulating an opinion. But, objectivity is elusive for some ; rather these retards revert to personal invectives in their ignorant rant.
      Why can’t you get it through your thick skull: no one can tell you not to refer to yourself as an indian; conversely, no one can tell me to refer to you as an Indian. You came to Guyana as a ‘cooloe’ and after 179 years you emerged as an indian – not as a Guyanese. You explain the metamorphosis.
      You would not be having this discourse of you possessed an INDIAN PASSPORT.
      And, when you are prepared to rendezvous with me , bring along your curriculum vitae. I’ll have mine in hand.

      • Micky  On March 12, 2017 at 12:40 pm

        BEHAR people in India are known for being lazy. Ignorant. Illiterate wife beaters. No wonder they found themselves in Guyana because no one else wanted them.

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On March 12, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    Hinds:
    You just don’t get it. No wonder you are demoted to grade school, despite your claimed CV. Let me take you through baby steps:
    #1
    Obama was used because, at the time of referring to himself as a hyphenated ‘“AFRICAN”- American’ he was the most known person on the planet, and as a prematurely chosen Nobel Prize winner he was a role model for some (except me, as he was a mediocre president, having failed to maintain his “Redline” on Syria leading to horrendous casualties; and creating ISIS in Iraq; sky-rocketing costs for many under ObamaCare). As well, because he is a (self-styled) Black/African which would appeal to your mode of thinking.
    Similarly, I mentioned the famine in Somalia (not to mention simultaneously in Yemen, South Sudan and NE Nigeria involving 20 million at risk) since you conveniently ignore the failings in Africa but have eyes only for India/Indian (British-manufactured) famines.
    #2.
    In the subject article, Freddie Kissoon speaks of INDIAN (numerous places) and BLACK: “…He urged Indian people to resist and rise up to protect what Indian people have. He didn’t distinguish the ordinary Indian folks like me and hundreds of thousands like us who have nothing and got nothing under Jagdeo and Ramotar.
    He didn’t mention the thousands of Indian students who cried daily……Ravi Dev was concerned with Indians…” Etc. etc. etc.
    Also: “Unfortunately, Black leaders did not urge Black Guyanese to do what Dev is instilling in Indians to do. If Black leaders had done that,..”.
    As well, Rhyaan Shah wrote (posted in the comments):
    “President David Granger in his address at Leonora last Sunday to mark the abolition centenary not only expressed his appreciation for the Indian contribution to Guyana’s development but assured us that we are very much part of a united Guyana.
    Why don’t you scold Kissoon and Granger for referring to ethnicities ? But the obvious answer is you have a ‘bully pulpit’ here just as you terrorized Ms. Jaikaran, a year ago. Kissoon even shockingly refers to himself: “Indian folks like me”. But because he is also a bully sharing your anti-Indian ideology, he gets a pass.
    #3.
    Remember this re. Elizabeth Jaikaran’s “Indo-Guyanese-American”?
    Ric Hinds On April 16, 2016 at 2:16 am
    …..Why this tendency amoung ”indo-Guyanese”? Why this need to froliferate and perpetuate this stupidity throughout the caribbean and neighouring south american countries? They are searching for a non-black identity, i.e., they are afraid to be labelled ”black”.
    What you are clearly asserting here is your racial superiority, hence that Guyana/South America are “black” country/continent.
    #4.
    This is my last post to enlighten you. Now, head back to the appropriate formal basic level learning for you; hopefully it will help to moderate your anti-Indian racism.

    Veda Nath Mohabir

  • demerwater  On March 12, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    I have often wondered, “If we remove ‘race’ from the discussion, what have we got left?
    NOTHING!
    “race” is to this forum as the “ACA” is to the GOP. For eight years the GOP made “repeal/replace” their mantra. Now that the ‘stars are aligned’ in their favor, what do they do?
    Hem & effing Haw!” Sorry, mom. I could not help it.
    I once described us, Guyanese, as offspring of ‘slaves and indentured Indians’ – and I was roundly criticized for the comment.
    “I am the son / daughter of a slave!
    Or the son / daughter of an indentured Indian”
    To some, it is an excuse, taken by the wimps.
    To others, like the (Cheddie) Jagan’s, the (Asaad) Ishoof’s, the (Edgar, Mortimer) Duke’s – it was a bold challenge.
    A challenge which they accepted; and shone a light upon a path which I could take.
    You, also, can take that path of light and right.

  • guyaneseonline  On March 13, 2017 at 4:07 am

    Don’t throw powder and water in the eyes of history
    Mar 13, 2017 Features / Columnists, Freddie Kissoon

    When I was conversing in the kitchen with my wife and daughter yesterday about the danger of educated minds being bigoted, I had no idea that I would be doing this subject today. We were talking about mistreatment of animals and my daughter made the point that when people are educated they know better. Immediately I interjected and contradicted her. I reminded her that such a concept has existed since time immemorial, but it is a myth.
    I explained that the most poisonous ideologies that have created unspeakable violence throughout history have been generated by educated people and many highly mannered people at that. Guyanese must never think even for a fleeting moment that it is the Indian cane cutter from Port Mourant and the African labourer from New Amsterdam that perpetuate the infallibility of Forbes Burnham and Cheddi Jagan.
    It is many widely educated Indians and Africans in high positions throughout the world that believe in and spread the propaganda that these two men were great and did not commit unpardonable political sins. Here is something that is interesting. If you sit down with that cane cutter or labourer, with the kind of language reach that someone like Walter Rodney and Rupert Roopnaraine had, you could easily persuade these ordinary folks that Burnham and Jagan were not as great as they are made out to be.
    Try telling that to the most learned African Burnhamite and Indian Jaganite. All their erudition from university goes out the window. They would not listen, they will never listen.
    Today, it is naive to think that it is the Indian labourer from Corentyne and the African carpenter from Georgetown that are spreading doctrines of falsehood about the sociology of race. The people who brew that poison like the Macbethian witches are not your semi-literate folk, but persons well placed in this land.
    A graphic example was the celebration of a hundred years since the abolition of indentureship. The speeches that were delivered there were not only the ignorance of the devilish mind, but the mind of people bent on stifling any space for ethnic reconciliation.
    The ignorance was so sick that I had to reply. Imagine Ms. Ryhaan Shah told the audience that Guyanese East Indians are marginalized. Ravi Dev and Shah responded to my disgust at their outpouring and it is an education for Guyanese to read what they said about me. Ms. Shah believes that my denunciation of her ethnic propagandizing endangers Government’s programme of encouraging social cohesion. Imagine, I repudiated race-baiting by a person who then, turns around and says my reply endangers social cohesion.
    I honestly cannot believe another person on Planet Earth could match such sickening nonsense. This is like the thief telling the judge that the judge’s action in trying him is more harmful to society than the thief who steals other people’s property.
    But there is much more to the ignorance of this lady. She calls me a self-loather. And it is easy to find out why. I am an Indian and I criticize Indians who speak up on behalf of Indians; as an Indian I should not do that and when I do that it means I loathe who I am – an Indian. It is not that I chastise Indians who speak on behalf of Indians; I criticize Indians who spread ignorance, ethnic propaganda and invent fictions to fool the Indian population and divide Guyanese.
    Then there is Dev. He rejected my contention that over ninety percent of the business world in Guyana is in the hands of Indians. Dev would have rejected any percentage I put down because that fact is his nemesis. If I had said 60 percent Dev would have said no. Why? Because the Indian control of the wealth of Guyana is the biggest setback to Dev’s theory of Indian hegemony. Dev wants equality in numbers in the public service, the army, the police force, the political rulership. But there is big trouble that awaits him when he serenades his converters.
    African rights activists come up and say, “Yeah maan, let’s have equality between the two races in everything.” By everything they mean everything, jobs, economy, power etc. How is Dev going to concede, that when his objective is ethnic hegemony? If you have equal possession of wealth, then hegemony falls. This explains why in his response, he wants to know how I arrived at ninety percent. I arrive at ninety percent because it is not rocket science. The motive of people like Dev and Shah is to blind history so they can wins converts. We must stop them!

    • Richinds  On March 13, 2017 at 7:59 am

      I share your view whole heartedly. You put to bed the long held belief that 0nes’ ethnicity is indicative of one’s political view.
      I am not as concerned about Guyana’s politely future as I am about the future of it’s people. The rift between the two majority ethnic classes seem to be widening. It is the reason i sujjested to those insist on their hyphenated identities do Guyana a a long deserved favour and go (bcck) to the countries with which they identify. Guyana should be first for Guyana.
      Perhaps, a true test of patriotism might be to ask of those who ferment / perpetuate this ‘racial divide’ if any of them can recite the words of the national anthem.
      Finally, do not presume my political affiliation from my comments. I am neither one not the other. I am fiercely apolitical. I will objectively take to task any who preach division. I will die with Guyana on my mind; I thank her for giving me birth. And, though it may not happen, I dream for this: ” and when at last I come to die I want no gilded tomb. Just let me test within they breast where they sweet flowers bloom…”

    • Richinds  On March 13, 2017 at 8:02 am

      Freddie Kission, i commend thee!

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On March 13, 2017 at 12:14 pm

    Howdy Cyril:
    Would appreciate if you can post the texts of Rhyaan Shah and Ravi Dev’s speeches at the Centenary of Abolition of Indian Indentureship event. Kissoon is harping on them in the three articles of his published here. Readers need to judge for ourselves. Pl post them as separate items on your next release.

    Tx, Veda.

    • guyaneseonline  On March 13, 2017 at 3:12 pm

      Veda:

      I do not have texts of the speeches you refer to.
      If you can supply them I would be glad to publish them.,,, or you could publish them in the Comments here.

      Thanks.
      Cyril

  • Ron Saywack  On March 13, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    Hyphenation:

    The subject of hyphenated names is a complex one. To me, it should be one of personal choice. If one feels it’s important to them, then, they should use it. Ultimately, with the passage of time, the goal is total assimilation into the new country where hyphenation would no longer be seen as important or necessary.

    The history of Guyana’s multicultural diversity is deeply rooted in a painful and regrettable past. Both the slaves and their indentured replacements arrived on her shores much against their will. Sadly, many did not survive the long, difficult sea voyages, with limited food, water or medical supplies on board. Their bodies were unceremoniously dumped at sea.

    It is a history that cannot, and should not, be readily dismissed. The slaves endured a much longer and sordid history of degradation and torture and faced much harsher cruelties than their successors. The colonial perpetrators committed their vicious crimes with impunity, and with the blessings of church and government. Their descendants today continue to benefit from the spoils of their crimes.

    Thus, if a number of Guyanese personally prefer to label themselves as Indian Guyanese or African Guyanese or Portuguese Guyanese or whatever Guyanese, so be it. In my view, no one should take exception or offence to it. One simply cannot dismiss history as if it never happened. It has only been a mere hundred years since the last ships of indentured slaves arrived.

    To assert that those assuming a hyphenated name are not true Guyanese is plain wrong. They are Guyanese first and Indo Guyanese (proper use of term) or African Guyanese, or whatever else, second. Really, why should anyone be offended by it and then have the audacity to say: “Go back to India” or “Go back to where your heart is”? There is plenty of odious and egregious stuff around to get upset about!

    In 1988, in Chicago, Rev Jesse Jackson urged that all blacks be henceforth called African American; and President Obama, in the 2010 census, listed himself as African American. He said: “For me, the term African-American really does fit. I’m African, I trace half of my heritage to Africa directly, and I’m American.”

    Historically, blacks were listed on the national census as either black, mulatto, quadroon, octoroon, depending on the degree of white blood in their ancestry or, not so long ago, negro. MLK used the term “negro” many times in his speeches.

    Alas, hyphenation usage is not endemic to Guyana. It is currently in use in many countries around the globe. Until the end of time, there will be proponents and opponents to it, but there is precious very little anyone can do about it. It is the way the cookie crumbles!

    • Richinds  On March 13, 2017 at 3:41 pm

      Both BO and JJ have little or no relevance to the Guyanese experience. I have had intimate (close) relations with ‘Indo-Caribbeans’ from Guyana and T&T. They think of themselves as INDIANS first – the respective countries of their birth being incidental.
      I am yet to meet – and I have met quite a few – Africans of Indian origin who refer to themselves as “Indo Africans”. They proudly call themselves “Africans” as they correct anyone who thought otherwise. Even those expelled from countries like Uganda insist on their African identity as a badge of honour. In Guyana and T&T there remains only one reason for delineated hyphenation: the fear of being identified as’BLACK’.Guyana should never become another Mauritius. If one insists on an Indian or African identity – For whatever insidiously delusional reason- one needs to repatriate to the respective country with which he/she identifies. The Indian and African origination should inform cultural traditions that have become a proud collective Guyanese experience. But to live in the past and to endevour to perpetuate it is dangerous. What we should unite around is dividing us. Politics, and unscrupulous politicians, play this insidious game with the gullible. And the divide keeps getting wider
      I remain hopeful that these people will understand that they owe their ethnicity to the country of their birth. And that the terms Indian or African do not refer to races, rather, to ethnicity.
      There is no ‘Mother India’ or ‘Mother Africa’. For all of us there should be a ‘Mother Guyana’.

      • Ron Saywack  On March 14, 2017 at 1:54 pm

        An analytical review of Hinds’ comment:

        1) Both BO and JJ have little or no relevance to the Guyanese experience.

        To the contrary, there is much relevance to the Guyanese experience vis-a-vis your irrational opposition to hyphenation. Blacks in America also originated in Africa and were also subjected to the same levels of cruelties and degradation as those in the West Indies;

        2) I am yet to meet – and I have met quite a few – Africans of Indian origin who refer to themselves as “Indo-Africans”.

        This is coffee-house talk which has no basis in reality or science. Just because you, presumably, have not met anyone who has not embraced hyphenation doesn’t mean it ain’t so. Your argument is akin to claiming that the waitress at X provided you with poor service. Therefore all waitresses at X provide poor service. Poor syllogism;

        3) In Guyana and T&T there remains only one reason for delineated hyphenation: the fear of being identified as ’BLACK’.

        That is your skewed opinion. I firmly disagree. Indians, generally, use the term, not to avoid racial confusion (nonsense), but in reference to their heritage;

        4) For whatever insidiously delusional reason- one needs to repatriate to the respective country with which he/she identifies.

        How is identifying with one’s ancestral homeland insidious and delusional, Hinds? It is a most bizarre and foolish thing to say. No rational person would ever say something like that. If you think that Guyanese, who are demonstrably proud of their heritage, should repatriate, then, by the same token, Barrack Obama, Jesse Jackson and all African Americans, who similarly embrace hyphenation, should repatriate to Africa. Well, it ain’t gonna happen in this century nor any time in the foreseeable future; professional counselling may be in order for anyone who espouses such deep-seated rancour;

        5 Politics, and unscrupulous politicians, play this insidious game with the gullible.

        Well, “this insidious game” was instigated by one Linden Forbes Samson Burnham in the 1960s, for selfish and political reasons, when he recklessly stated that “we have to take the fight to where they grow rice”, meaning where Indians live and work. That was treasonable and reprehensible conduct, to say the least! The racial divisions and riots that ensued have permeated the nation to this day, unfortunately;

        6) There is no ‘Mother India’ or ‘Mother Africa’. For all of us, there should be (only) a ‘Mother Guyana’.

        Yes, Guyana is the motherland of all who were born there. But India or Nigeria or Sierra Leone or the Congo or Portugal or wherever else is their respective ancestral homeland, indisputably. It is an inalienable right and it is neither offensive or unpatriotic to state so, except in your limited view.

        On this forum, you have repeatedly demonstrated a wide deficit in knowledge and intellectual acumen. An example is when you, in a most derogatory and offensive manner, stated that the vast majority of Indian Guyanese (Dalits) came from South India. The reality is, only 3% of Indians came from that region of the subcontinent. Nearly 90% were extracted from the northern states.

        You recently challenged Veda Nath to “rendezvous” with you to compare curricula vitarum. Well, it is not necessary. Veda has demonstrated, admirably, that he is an intellectual and one who is roundly-informed. In public fora, a man, ivariably, rises or falls on his own words. That is the beauty and magic of the modern Information Age!

      • Richinds  On March 15, 2017 at 8:49 am

        “A man convinced against his will is of the same information still”.
        Your attempt to identify me with BO &JJ makes my point that you lump people into racial/political categories is laughable. The F B allusion falls in that same category , but is politically inaccurate. The cries of “aa paan jaat ” were audible long before I became a teenager – FB was years away from becoming PM. I am as familiar with Dr.J then as I was with the likes of P.Ramsahoye, at al. My uncle, yes, my uncle established the PTO and became the first General Secretary. As a child, i witnessed my father ( laughably of portugese origin) during the riots save the life of a Mr. Samaroo, and many others of his descent , at the risk of his own. Many of your descent were often gathered in our home and on our grounds seeking protection from rampaging mobs while my father stood at our gate with bare hands outstretched, daring them to get by him. Presuming my political allegiance because of my name makes you the intolerant one.
        This started out as a quest to explain the need of a hyphenated identity on the part of some, be it afro or indo. The outcome makes me a racist. I don’t see people as having racial identities: I see them as simply people. In retrospect, i wonder if either of those three (indian) families who (at different periods) stayed in my home thought of me as racially insensitive? And I wonder what the few (black) ones who enjoyed the same privalege think? Most people I know in North America don’t shelter strangers.
        But I am not “most people”. Through my travels the world over I have become what I am: fiercely sceptical of the intentions of those who require the deliniation of a hyphenated identity. To what purpose? I sujjest that ” where your heart is, is where you should also be”. Guyana belongs to Guyanese, not to the indo or afro deliniations. It’s survival depends on those who feel privaledged to be of it’s extraction. I leave you with the memorable lyrics of Pluto Shervington, ” I MAN BORN YA” .
        PS: not all opinions are educated ones. you might be in need of a three month “passage (back) to India” to ponder on your loyalties.

      • Richinds  On March 15, 2017 at 8:21 pm

        I am reasonably certain that i am better educated that this idiot masquerading as an Indo-Guyanese nationalistist. To call him a racist would be an insult to bigots.
        Blacks in America have been forced to refer to themselves as”Afro” because of the exclusionary policies and the consequent inability to assimilate into mainstream (white) American society. There is no ‘American ethnicity’, unless one is white.
        In Guyana (And T&T) , however, the hyphenated ones refuse – though they are not forbidden- to assimilate into a west indian/ caribbean identity. (Research Alex Bustamante’s Caribnean Federation). Their unequivocol reason was their resentment of being identified as black – and the fact that in these two countries they are in the majority. Is is the ABB syndrome: identify me as ‘anything but black’.You see, these hyphenated ones cling to ingrained belief of ethnic (genetic) superiority. Though dark in colour, they would rather be considered ABB.
        I am usually unaware of my etnicity/colour when in ‘white’ socio/economic circles; but I am reminded of it when I am around ‘indo-caribbean’ people. The name calling is passed on as humorous banter; but it is all too frequent in NA. Their children are being precepted to disdain ‘black company’.The most prolific word in the vernacular of the transplanted ‘indo Guyanese’ is “blackman”; even the street dwellers – to whom I am very charitable- share this disgusting passtime. Guess what the second most used word is? And the use of these synonyms for blacks occur in the course of normal conversation.
        Though my years in Europe , North America and behond, i can’t recall ever being called the “N” word.But the hyphenated ones in Queens make a habit of using this word to describe ‘black people’. They seem to be relying on some ethnic superiority they do not enjoy. For some reason they can’t seem to get it through their thick skulls that they are identified as ‘black as black can be’ ; ask the ‘superior whites’.
        The racism you are taken with you the world over should not be allowed to perpetuate Guyana’s future. Guyana and Guyanese would be damned forever if they allow these racist demagogues to regain socio-economic/political power in our ELDORADO.
        Don’t let them make another Mauritius of Guyana. GUYANA FOR GUYANESE.
        PS: I make no CLAIM to an education from THE PATRICE LUMUMBA’s University of Russia, nor do I acknowledge a honorary Doctorate from an Indian university chaired by a U.N. colleague. But, if those with the aforementioned credits are considered intellectuals, then COLOUR ME GENIUS, yes f*****g GENIUS.
        Mistyped ‘PTO’ meant ‘PYO’. And yes, my uncle -who studied journalism in Russia along with the other rabid communists of his era- was its co-founder and first General Secretary .

      • Ron Saywack  On March 15, 2017 at 12:08 pm

        “PS: not all opinions are educated ones,” admits the illiterate one.

        Could not agree more!

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On March 13, 2017 at 2:36 pm

    Saw this on a Facebook post linked to Guyana Chronicle:

    Guyana Chronicle
    6 hrs ·
    The President,being very adept at Guyanese history said, “Holi has been a source of solidarity and sustenance, during and beyond the period of indentured immigration… Holi has reinforced the link with the motherland and re-established cultural connections…so Holi is here to stay,” President Granger told the gathering.

    He also referred to “Indian”, again in another Chronicle article.
    Wonder which “motherland” he is referring to?

    Veda Nath Mohabir

  • guyaneseonline  On March 15, 2017 at 11:57 pm

    Text of speech by Rhyaan Shah at the Centenary of Indenture Abolition event

    I am tasked with giving an overview of where we are today and an idea of where we are going.

    I can sum it up in one sentence: we came on ships and we are leaving on jet planes.

    But between the arrival and the leaving there is a story and, perhaps, we can take up the challenge to make a turn in direction that would benefit the future of this country we call home.

    But before I get there I want to take a few moments to pay tribute to our jahajins who made that perilous journey out of India and settled here.

    Next Wednesday will be International Women’s Day and it is fitting that we remember the sacrifice and struggle that these women undertook for our sake.

    That we have anything at all to celebrate by way of music and dance is largely because of our jahajins.

    They were the repositories of the traditions, rituals, values and customs which they handed them down to the generations after so that we can maintain that vital link with our ancestral home.

    They even fashioned a particular style of dress. Here in Guyana, they did not continue to wear the sari but wore a skirt and jula – a tight bodice – and took the Madras kerchief and fashioned a unique headdress which was known as the rumaal.

    They wore it for modesty, out of respect for others, and more importantly as a mark of respect for themselves.

    No one dared to meddle with our ajees and nanees.

    These were upright women, women of extreme courage and valour who brought up families under difficult circumstances.

    They worked with the men in the fields and stood with them in every one of the over-hundred strikes and revolts on the plantations.

    Three of them – Surujdei, Sumintra and Kowsilla – a young woman from Leonora who stood in solidarity with her sisters on the estate – made the ultimate sacrifice with their lives in that struggle.

    They fought for equal pay for equal work. They fought against their sexual exploitation. They fought for better working conditions and living conditions. They fought for justice.

    As one jahajin said to us some years ago about her life on the estate: it wasn’t kuch kuch hota hai.

    Even before the suffragettes and the women’s lib movement of the 1960s, our jahajins were among the world’s earliest feminists.

    That they had such strength of character – to my mind – disputes every idea that they were in any way weak and loose women.

    They were also the ones who were there with the men to help start the agri-businesses once they completed their contracted labour.

    Many of our foreparents chose to stay rather than return to India because they saw a chance for a bright future here.

    Between the estate planting, harvesting and grinding – our foreparents, farmed, kept cattle, fished – and they created that other major industry, the rice industry.

    As the village communities grew and prospered, some stepped in to fill the need for other businesses – for providing clothes, groceries, building supplies, household goods.

    The names that now emblazon our business community – Gafoors, Tulsi Persaud, Kissoon, Muneshwers, Beharry – all started out as family businesses in the countryside.

    And most are from the Corentyne, I am proud to say – home also of Cheddi Jagan and Rohan Kanhai and Joe Solomon who is with us here tonight.

    Then – what should have been a secure, safe and prosperous future changed.

    The politics that came with self-government deepened the divide between the Indian and African communities and this boiled over into violence.

    The small Chinese and Portuguese populations started to flee the riots of the 1960s along with some Indians and Africans.

    This flight has since continued and, for many Indians, Guyana has unfortunately become a stopover on the voyage out of India as they travel to New York and Toronto for the safety, security and prosperity denied them here.

    And who can blame them? After all, that was the hope of our foreparents who stayed here and worked, and who gave their lives in martyrdom.

    It was all to build a good life and to give their children the best possible chance at success.

    But they saw it all go up in smoke – literally. They saw it all shot down – literally.

    However, we are a tenacious bunch. We boarded ship not knowing how wide was the sea and how long the voyage.

    I say there is courage in that story. There is a sense of adventure and bravery in facing the unknown and besting it.

    For those reasons, I want to say that all is not yet lost.

    However, I cannot stand here this evening and say that there is anygreat optimism in our community about our future here.

    Right now the rice industry faces an uncertain future. More sugar estates are to be shut down before the year is out and hundreds of our families will be faced with destitution.

    With private school fees are now being taxed, our schools – including the many Hindu and Muslim schools across the country – might face closure as well.

    The business sector is shrinking and our city centre has become a ghost town.

    The Indian Guyanese community feels that it is the intended target of these administrative policies.

    These new threats are compounded by the age-old concerns about our invisibility in what is usually presented as the national narrative and experience.

    Our children read books of history and literature and do not see themselves there.

    They watch what are called national celebrations and do not see themselves there.

    They look at today’s decision-makers and do not see themselves there.

    This despite our strides in every area of the country’s development – in business and commerce, in the professions, and in the performance of our civic duties.

    Yet, we remain mostly invisible.

    And when our children fail to see themselves in the national narrative – whether it is history, literature, music, or dance – they, of course, question that marginalisation …

    and might even believe that the fault lies with themselves rather than with policies that discriminate.

    It is most often for their sake and their future that our families continue to leave for other countries.

    It is truly Guyana’s tragedy that as we mark the centenary of the end of Indian indentureship that we still live at the margins of society – just as our earliest jahajis did.

    So, what really has changed?

    And this – even as we know – that we belong to this land, have worked for this land, have died for this land –

    and are as much citizens as everyone else with all the rights this should provide us.

    We have here tonight members of the government and the opposition. They can change the direction of our country if there is the political will.

    But fifty years after independence, that too is lacking, as we continue to suffer the politics of one-upmanship that serves egos rather than country and people.

    I am afraid that I stand here before you tonight – with all the same questions that you have about our future as citizens of Guyana.

    On this historic occasion, it would be nice to say that we can look forward to the next hundred years of building on the past to create a bright future.

    The music, the dance, the glitter and the colour that we will enjoy here tonight are authentically Guyanese even as they pay homage to the heritage of our ancestral land of India.

    They are part of the wealth of culture, faith, traditions, and values which are our offerings – and presented in good faith – to the beauty and prosperity of this land that we share with others.

    Enjoying tonight’s show will bring a moment’s respite from the gloom of our future prospects.

    And I will end on this note:

    We are a people of strong faith and enduring values – we have overcome before. Perhaps, we can hope to overcome again.

    • Richinds  On March 16, 2017 at 5:18 am

      You pay homage with the undying legacies of your culture wrapped up in your religion. This is not the legacy of the offspring of slaves who were stripped of both. To insist on a hyphenated ethnicity implies a divided loyalty to the country that gave you birth. The motive can only be sinister. How can you consider yourself as having a Divine right to govern (rule) Guyana when you disrespect your birthright? “No man can serve two masters”. “You can’t run with the hares and hunt with the hounds” at the same time. You get my point.
      Like Solomon, I’ll put this dilemma to one final test. I am willing to acquiesce to your claim for hyphenation and the rights you claim as Indo-Guyanese if you can provide evidence of the following: Pakistanis and/or Bangladeshis who are self styled ‘Indo Pakistanis and/or Indo Bangladeshis’. Given their more recent history and their contiguity with India, should they not be loyally expected to revere ‘Mother India’? But if you fail to provide one example, yet insist on your self styled hyphenation as a right, then you have no right to consider Guyana home.
      Do yourself and Guyana a favour: GO BACK HOME! (IT’S WHERE YOUR HEART IS).

      • Ron Saywack  On March 16, 2017 at 11:59 am

        Only the inadequate and the insecure would find it necessary to publicly brandish their manufactured credentials to bolster their self-importance and diminutive egos. The class of the genuinely educated is evinced in their work, in their intellectuality and in their humility.

        In the case of a certain dysfunctional subject, there is really no cure for the illness afflicting his stunted mind. Predictably, he keeps repeating the same old demented mantra time after time like an abandoned child crying out for attention. His illness is too far advanced for professional remedies. It is now in the realm of palliative care.

        He angrily claims to be “better educated” and then brags about his curriculum vitae, even, laughably, challenging an intelligent man to meet with him to compare credentials.Then, he crashes Guyaneseonline to say what an effing genius he is by repeatedly misspelling simple words that every effing genius is expected to know — words like “sujjest”, “privalege”, “privaledged “, “deliniation”, “portugese”, to name a few. This is not a case of forgivable typos, it is a pattern.

        The following is yet example of the disease rearing its ugliness inside that muddled head:

        “Given their more recent history and their contiguity with India, sbould they not be loyally expected to revere ‘Mother India’?”

        The learned person would know that the indentured workers to British Guiana were hoodwinked, coerced, deceived and kidnapped onto those steamships. The Pakistanis and Bangladeshi situations are not quite the same, they are directly related to internecine and religious warfare, as opposed to enslavement — Hinduism v Islam.

        The psychotic patient, like a trained parrot, keeps repeating: “GO BACK HOME! (IT’S WHERE YOUR HEART IS).”

        Maybe his twisted wish may one day be realised because the population of Guyana, over the past half century, has remained disturbingly unchanged. An estimated 1.2 million Guyanese now reside abroad compared to 740,000 at home. I can’t think of another country where, in recent memory, this level of lopsided emigration is occurring. It is indeed a sad state of affairs.

        What a monumental mess the colonial criminals have left behind in that little-known gem in South America!

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On March 16, 2017 at 11:17 am

    Ms. Shah has issued a correction in the text of her speech:

    The “name of one of the women martyrs …was not Surjudei but Gobindei.”

    Veda Nath Mohabir

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On March 16, 2017 at 10:55 pm

    Mr. Hinds: while you are on my IGNORE list, you issued a challenge (below) so I will make an exception. First, a couple of observations:
    1. Obviously your spectacular CV and travels haven’t made you sufficiently educated and wiser. You ‘commended’ Kissoon on one of his rants but the same Kissoon refers to himself as “Indian”. Ergo, don’t you think he should head back to India, given that you shout out that the merely ‘hyphenated’ Indo-Guyanese should?
    2. Where in these discussions anyone (other than you, of course) said that he/she considers ‘having a Divine right to govern (rule) Guyana’?

    3. Now your challenge. You say: “I am willing to acquiesce to your claim for hyphenation and the rights you claim as Indo-Guyanese if you can provide evidence of the following: Pakistanis and/or Bangladeshis who are self styled ‘Indo Pakistanis and/or Indo Bangladeshis’…should they not be loyally expected to revere ‘Mother India’?” Surprise, Surprise! Your ignorance has got you into a pickle! The whole country of “Bangladesh” DOES revere/give recognition to ‘Mother India’. “Bangla”= Bengal and Desh = country or place in Hindi/Sanskrit. So, Bangladesh = ‘Country of Bengal’ does reach back to her ‘Mother Indian’ origins. SO YOU HAVE LOST YOUR CHALLENGE! Even adopting a ‘Solomon’ persona doesn’t hide your deficit. SO PAY UP if you are a man of your word.

    4. Pakistan is another matter – a case of religious chauvinism. Pakistan means ‘land of the pure’ (in fact, it is the main reason why Bangladesh suffered a horrific genocide by West Pakistan (‘the pure’) on both dark-skinned Muslims – seen as extensions of Hindus- and the Hindus). As with the Abrahamic religions’ exclusive/intolerance of idolatrous/polytheists/heathen Hindus, Pakistan opted to break away (with huge help from the British and esp Churchill – the British ‘people of the book’, Christians). For over 800 years, Muslim invader/rulers were in power in India, until the British took over, during which they didn’t mind having ‘impure’ underling Hindus. Once, independence in a Hindu majority nation was in the offing, they opted for a ‘Land of the Pure’ to be rid of the impure Hindus.

    Since you delight in Indian suffering (e.g. famines) read this Sunday Times article that a fair-minded honest liberal Muslim has on his website to expose the Pakistan genocide . http://tarekfatah.com/genocide-the-june-1971-article-about-pakistans-mass-murders-in-east-pakistan-by-tony-mascarenhas-in-londons-sunday-times-that-woke-up-the-world/

    5. Given ‘hyphenation drives you nuts, what about Latin-America? Oh, I forgot it’s not “Indo”. Don’t you ever refer to yourself as West Indian? Similarly, the same “Indian” suffix is applied to all native people in the Western hemisphere. So, influential was ‘famine-infested’ India. Going East, in your travels, you must have heard of Indonesia (= Isles of India). What about the other names ‘revering’ said India, such as Singapore (Singa= Lion, pore/pura = city, from Indian Sanskrit)? Or, that the official title of the Kings of Thailand (Siam) being of the “Rama” Chakri (as in Yoga cakras) dynasty for 240years? Or that similarly, Rameses is derived from said Rama, a most revered/noble/ideal Hindu King (of the Ramayan epic) across the ancient world.
    Or that the movie Avatar copied heavily from Hindu mythology? Or, that Syria is named after “Surya” the Hindu sun deity? And, that its city Palmaya (also in Corentyne) is named after a palm tree native of India? I’m sure you heard of the Blue Nile – a tautology, because Nil = Blue in Sanskrit. Or, that Queen Sheba is derived from Lord Shiva because of ancient Hindu influence across the Arabian Sea (given that Hindus were the first sailors, because ‘navigation’ is derived from Sanskrit ‘Navigath’).
    As you can see, the Indian/Hindu influence is pervasive from these few examples. So getting rid of Indo-Guyanese is like Macbeth trying to wash his hands of Duncan’s blood: “Will all great Neptune’s ocean wash this blood / Clean from my hand? No, this my hand will rather / The multitudinous seas incarnadine, / Making the green one red. “.
    Here are a couple more to send you into a tizzy. The numerals you use for ALL calculations are INDIAN numerals (not Arabic – Arabs/Muslims were the conquering rulers who took the numerals West). So too, English, as with over a dozen languages in western Asia/Europe are derivatives of Sanskrit (India). And, most of all,… better have a seat as you will suffer a huge shock/apoplexy. Do you know that when you call yourself ‘MAN’, the human species, you are paying reverence to an ancient INDIAN named MANU/MANOO – who also survived the first FLOOD, hence the prototype for the Biblical one?

    While we are on the Bible, did you know Abraham is derived from Brahman (‘Brah’ = to grow large, expand; hence the Hindu formless God from whom the universe is derived and to whom yoga practitioners intone OMMMM). Not convinced? His creator aspect is Brahma, whose consort is Goddess, Saraswati. Note that Abraham’s wife was Sara/Sarah/Sarai. Do you also not see the similarity with “Sara” in Saraswati? There are lots more. Hinduism has been plagiarized; same Hinduism the ‘bound coolie’Indians worship.

    So, you have got a huge problem, Mr Hinds: How to cleanse the planet of Indians, You are afflicted with Macbeth’s syndrome. But, first of all, pay up on your challenge!

    Veda Nath Mohabir

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